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Post by Mackerelman on Jun 9, 2021 22:36:28 GMT -5
Red Tide Report
In Southwest Florida over the past week, fish kills suspected to be related to red tide were reported in Pinellas, Manatee, Lee and Collier counties. Respiratory irritation suspected to be related to red tide was reported over the past week in Southwest Florida in Pinellas County. There are Fish Kills & Dead Fish Smells on the Beaches of Pass-a-Grill, St. Pete Beach, Treasure Island & Madeira Beach. There is also a Bloom from Piney Point through the South End of the Skyway into the Gulf of Mexico. Use the Map Below for Reference. Red Tide Chart for Tampa Bay
ocgweb.marine.usf.edu/tbm/hab/It was on the News tonight on WTSP-10 & I thought that I would pass it on.
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Post by carlf on Jun 10, 2021 6:30:02 GMT -5
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Post by Flatsrunner on Jun 10, 2021 6:31:42 GMT -5
Thanks for the update, was hoping the recent rains would knock the bloom down but was thinking this would happen. had a feeling the state was trying to downplay had bad it really was, question now is how long it's going to take the bay to recover this time?
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Post by Mackerelman on Jun 11, 2021 16:43:44 GMT -5
Red Tide Report for Friday - 6-11-2021 Respiratory irritation was reported over the past week in Southwest Florida in Pinellas County.
Red Tide Tracking Map:
ocgweb.marine.usf.edu/tbm/hab/ |
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Post by Mackerelman on Jun 11, 2021 19:42:56 GMT -5
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Post by fishfinderbill on Jun 11, 2021 20:33:16 GMT -5
Bad timing with Grouper in and Macks back. Maybe I'll wait until Sept. when it will be cooler anyway!!
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Post by seabird on Jun 12, 2021 7:41:35 GMT -5
Bad timing with Grouper in and Macks back. Maybe I'll wait until Sept. when it will be cooler anyway!! I will avoid skyway and Desoto until reports improve. Hate to miss my favorite place, Ft. Desoto. |
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Post by bax81 on Jun 12, 2021 12:27:15 GMT -5
So is it at the ssp? I was hoping these negative tides would help keep it at bay was gonna make a run today, anyone been out there today or last night?
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Post by Flatsrunner on Jun 12, 2021 14:02:37 GMT -5
So is it at the ssp? I was hoping these negative tides would help keep it at bay was gonna make a run today, anyone been out there today or last night? Check the previous links, it's scattered all over the bay.. |
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Post by Mackerelman on Jun 12, 2021 21:16:40 GMT -5
So is it at the ssp? I was hoping these negative tides would help keep it at bay was gonna make a run today, anyone been out there today or last night? All of The Local News Stations are also Covering the Red Tide. |
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Post by navygmc on Jun 13, 2021 23:13:02 GMT -5
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Post by crazedpaul on Jun 15, 2021 15:06:50 GMT -5
  Well its all over the beach here are just 2 pics from out buy at madeira north of the pass. my wife and son went out took these and a video but I don't know how to upload a video... but its more of this.... Thanks to our Elected Officials kicking the can down the road....and letting them dump this is what we get... |
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Post by seabird on Jun 15, 2021 16:46:20 GMT -5
I agree with calling out elected officials regarding dumping. However, there are thousands points of pollution...fertilizers used for all of those 'perfect' lawns...guess where those phosphates and nitrates go.
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Post by Flatsrunner on Jun 15, 2021 17:06:11 GMT -5
I agree with calling out elected officials regarding dumping. However, there are thousands points of pollution...fertilizers used for all of those 'perfect' lawns...guess where those phosphates and nitrates go. You are absolutely correct, I live inland some 70 miles from the bay but still have reservation about using fertilizers too much, those millions of gallons of polluted water from piney point touched off a powder keg in the bay and the so called solution of drilling a deep well to dump the remaining contaminated water is not a a solution but a short term fix we or our children will pay for years from now. |
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Post by saltybass on Jun 16, 2021 7:02:35 GMT -5
Long post with some thought involved...
Just a little clarification for the residential lawns causing algae blooms idea. Your grass is not the problem.
I am for the summer fertilizer ban being abolished. We have 'best practices' rules for landscaping already. They save money for the landscapers by using less chemical and only when needed.
Hundreds of thousands if not millions of tons of 'slow release' fertilizer are dumped on lawns in the bay counties during May before the ban. These are granular fertilizers usually around 8-0-8, phosphorus isn't allowed to begin with.
Then in October it's repeated with a quick release mix. And another lower level in ~January.
Zoysia and St Augustine sods are dormant November through March. Dry/winter season is when fertilizers are applied but not used by plants. The May dump is hopefully what gets a lawn through the entire year. This is the time that plants can actually consume the fertilizer but it requires the ferts don't wash out. (They all do unless it's liquid) We don't fertilize lawns when the grass can use it. If we get winter rains, it gets washed out. If we get a May June storm a ton is washed out.
Check out who is exempt from these regulations. They're also exempt from water use restrictions. Those are the real issue with fertilizer along with the mandated dump right when we go into rainy season.
TL,DR
Don't feel bad about fertilizing the yard. Your not causing any real impact.
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Post by zaid101403 on Jun 16, 2021 7:40:57 GMT -5
Went out Monday to the other side of the Bellair Causeway and Clearwater intercostal. No dead fish I could see, but the water was definitely murky and could see the presence of red tide. Went farther inshore to the backwater ways of Bellair in the canals extending from mainland Pinellas County in Bellair, there were hundreds of dead fish floating in the canals. It looks like what is happening is the current is pushing the fish kills into the back water way canals closest to the mainland, so the fish kill is not visible for most in terms of inshore unless you look in the canals. The fish are dying everywhere but there being pushed into the backwater. Personally, Im going to give the Bellair/Indian Rocks/Clearwater fishing area a rest because it doesn't look good. Im probably going to fish in the st pete or vinoy park area from now on for a while till things clear up. It doesn't look like there is any red tide over there yet...
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Post by calcolater on Jun 16, 2021 13:50:29 GMT -5
Went out Monday to the other side of the Bellair Causeway and Clearwater intercostal. No dead fish I could see, but the water was definitely murky and could see the presence of red tide. Went farther inshore to the backwater ways of Bellair in the canals extending from mainland Pinellas County in Bellair, there were hundreds of dead fish floating in the canals. It looks like what is happening is the current is pushing the fish kills into the back water way canals closest to the mainland, so the fish kill is not visible for most in terms of inshore unless you look in the canals. The fish are dying everywhere but there being pushed into the backwater. Personally, Im going to give the Bellair/Indian Rocks/Clearwater fishing area a rest because it doesn't look good. Im probably going to fish in the st pete or vinoy park area from now on for a while till things clear up. It doesn't look like there is any red tide over there yet... I would go farther south into the Bradenton, Sarasota area to be honest with you. I just came back from Anna Maria on the Rod Reel Pier. No signs of red tide, lots of small fish bait fish, glass minnows, and even more snook and mackerel |
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Post by Mackerelman on Jun 16, 2021 16:27:09 GMT -5
Wednesday-(06/16/2021) Red Tide Mapocgweb.marine.usf.edu/tbm/hab/In Southwest Florida over the past week, fish kills suspected to be related to red tide were reported in Pinellas, Hillsborough, and Manatee counties.
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Post by fishfinderbill on Jun 16, 2021 20:45:47 GMT -5
All the maps I've seen show no R.T. around NSP. Is this true?
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Post by Mackerelman on Jun 16, 2021 21:51:23 GMT -5
All the maps I've seen show no R.T. around NSP. Is this true? Look at My Link above again. Wednesday-(06/16/2021) Red Tide Map It shows the Red Tide on All 3 Maps at the NS Pier. |
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Post by fishfinderbill on Jun 17, 2021 20:31:18 GMT -5
Since 50% of the Veterans and Srs. I bring with me have breathing problems, I guess we will hang up our Rods and Reels until the Fall.
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Post by trobee on Jun 17, 2021 20:39:58 GMT -5
This blows. Any places down south with gags? I can get on a kayak if I have to
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Post by Mackerelman on Jun 18, 2021 9:47:39 GMT -5
If You want to catch Fish, You may want to go offshore.
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Post by Mackerelman on Jun 18, 2021 9:53:36 GMT -5
Current Red Tide Map
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Post by carlf on Jun 18, 2021 12:31:10 GMT -5
This is looking pretty bad, worse than a few years back. Even showing up in MacKay Bay
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Post by silverspoon on Jun 18, 2021 13:55:33 GMT -5
LAWN FERTILIZER?  Y'all can't have that short of a memory, I know we're getting old (I'm 57) but come on...PINEY POINT DISCHARGE! Remember the hundreds of thousands of pounds of nutrients just dumped into our bay? This is exactly what was predicted to occur, yes they down played it, "it was diluted away", what a load of BS, it does not dilute away, it has to be consumed by something, it does not dilute away, the load which was tremendous in nature is in the water awaiting something to consume it and here we are! That is not to say lawn fertilizer doesn't contribute but heck no, this is due to the recent dumping from Piney Point. |
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Post by Flatsrunner on Jun 18, 2021 14:16:53 GMT -5
LAWN FERTILIZER? Y'all can't have that short of a memory, I know we're getting old (I'm 57) but come on...PINEY POINT DISCHARGE! Remember the hundreds of thousands of pounds of nutrients just dumped into our bay? This is exactly what was predicted to occur, yes they down played it, "it was diluted away", what a load of BS, it does not dilute away, it has to be consumed by something, it does not dilute away, the load which was tremendous in nature is in the water awaiting something to consume it and here we are! That is not to say lawn fertilizer doesn't contribute but heck no, this is due to the recent dumping from Piney Point. No I do have a few marbles rolling around up there still, as i said on a previous quote that and many others also that piney point dump set off a powder keg in Tampa bay that was waiting for the right conditions and none of the gov't agencies will come out and directly blame piney point for this mess for fear of being dragged into any litigation. |
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Post by Mackerelman on Jun 18, 2021 15:37:30 GMT -5
There are now High Concentrations of Red Tide off the Pinellas County Beaches. Even one of My favorite places to Fish: The Dunedin Causeway A Friend of mine messaged Me today and said that the place was a disaster & Dead Fish were everywhere & You could not breathe near the water. Today's Red Tide Tracking Maps - There are 3 Mapsocgweb.marine.usf.edu/tbm/hab/ |
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Post by crazedpaul on Jun 18, 2021 18:23:53 GMT -5
6-18-21 6pm Bay pines park area was really Bad Rotting and dead fish all along the shorelines No visible bait my son said he saw a school of mullet.... Guess the parks don't get the same clean up as the Beaches... Go figure...
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Post by Mackerelman on Jun 23, 2021 18:57:04 GMT -5
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Y'all can't have that short of a memory, I know we're getting old (I'm 57) but come on...PINEY POINT DISCHARGE! Remember the hundreds of thousands of pounds of nutrients just dumped into our bay? This is exactly what was predicted to occur, yes they down played it, "it was diluted away", what a load of BS, it does not dilute away, it has to be consumed by something, it does not dilute away, the load which was tremendous in nature is in the water awaiting something to consume it and here we are! That is not to say lawn fertilizer doesn't contribute but heck no, this is due to the recent dumping from Piney Point.