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Post by shot33gun9 on Oct 11, 2023 13:24:10 GMT -5
No macks, 1 false albacore, 8-10 small bluerunners....9:30-12 all up and down the pier
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Post by johnnyv on Oct 11, 2023 15:20:29 GMT -5
Thanks for the report. Was thinking of heading out after work will let you know if anything bites
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Post by shot33gun9 on Oct 11, 2023 15:43:16 GMT -5
Falling tide might be the ticket, not uncommon for macks to switch
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fishtailz
Rod Polisher
Hour and a half drive to get there but love the skyway piers. Big fish available.
Posts: 119
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Post by fishtailz on Oct 11, 2023 16:01:58 GMT -5
WENT YESTERDAY. SSP. ARRIVE AT 7 A.M. AND LEAVE AT 4 P.M. WHOLE LINE OF CARS JUST PAST THE ENTRANCE. WAS TOLD BY GUY IN BAITHOUSE THEY WERE CATCHING GROUPER. WENT ABOUT HALF WAY AND STARTED THROWING A POPPING CORK-SPOON COMBO AND MY NEPHEW THREW A GOTCHA. NOTHING. SPOKE WITH ONE FISHERMAN WHO CLAIMED HE GOT TWO BONITA EARLY IN THE MORN. SABIKIED SOME BAIT AND GOT A COUPLE DOZEN SHRIMP. CAUGHT A FEW BLUE RUNNERS, SMALL JACK, LIZARDFISH. INCOMING TIDE. SAW NO MACKERAL CAUGHT. MOVED AROUND A BIT. DECIDED TO TRY NSP AROUND 1. TIDE HAD EBBED AND WAS STARTING OUT. MORE CURRENT ON THAT PIER. COUPLE MORE BLUE RUNNERS, 1 KEEPER SNAPPER ON WHITE BAIT AT ROCKPILE. HAD HIGH HOPES AFTER EARLIER POSTS IN THE WEEK. 9 HOURS FOR ALL THOSE FISH. NICE TO BE OUT THERE AGAIN BUT DAMN. STUCKINTHEROCKS SAID HE WAS GOING TUESDAY AND WAS LOOKING FOR A POST FROM HIM TO SEE IF IT WAS JUST ME.
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Post by conureman on Oct 11, 2023 16:34:21 GMT -5
I'll be out there Friday for my birthday so I'll post a report in the afternoon
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Post by shot33gun9 on Oct 11, 2023 16:37:38 GMT -5
Are the macks invited to that birthday bash? If so I'll invite myself as well. FwC officer I've known for 5-6 years stopped to talk, said he had been busy getting all the sqatters off the access road and had issued 6 citations yesterday, asked him about the educational program that's required, he said the rest of this week they will continue to explain it to fishers but next week they will be issuing citations and looking for photoshopped forgeries
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Post by conureman on Oct 11, 2023 18:09:23 GMT -5
Are the macks invited to that birthday bash? If so I'll invite myself as well. FwC officer I've known for 5-6 years stopped to talk, said he had been busy getting all the sqatters off the access road and had issued 6 citations yesterday, asked him about the educational program that's required, he said the rest of this week they will continue to explain it to fishers but next week they will be issuing citations and looking for photoshopped forgeries Fwc , and pelicans are not invited lol. Macks are definitely invited hope they'll show up.
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Post by shot33gun9 on Oct 11, 2023 19:09:51 GMT -5
With hot west winds coming off the gulf I don't have much confidence for the rest of this week
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Post by stuckintherocks on Oct 11, 2023 19:31:49 GMT -5
Sorry about the lack of post from me, I coulda warned you all that it was gonna suck.. hahaha I tried my best but only finished with 4 decent Mack’s after fishing from 7am til about 6pm, also moved all up and down south with no luck at all and no false albuquerque, little tummy’s, boniters, or whatever the hell you wanna call those wonderful cut bait rockets. Bummer for me but it was a nice day, I think the lack of water movement is what killed the Mack bite, the 4 I found were at the very end of the north pier on the inside fishing towards the other bridge. Weighted spoon and glass minnow jig. I did see 2 real nice gags caught, one was a thick 28incher caught on a popping cork with pilchard. Spanish sardines everywhere as well but I didn’t mess around with bait much. Sure am glad I got some action last week while it lasted hahaha
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Post by stuckintherocks on Oct 11, 2023 19:36:07 GMT -5
Couple side notes, did see a giant Spanish caught at the end of north pier. Definitely in the 26+ inch range. Only large one I saw caught though. Also fwc officer pulled up right infront of where I was fishing. Didn’t get out of car and didn’t see him check anybody.. all action was only at peak of tides.
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Post by conureman on Oct 14, 2023 15:50:53 GMT -5
Nothing to report for Friday . Just dead no fish at all.
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Post by shot33gun9 on Oct 14, 2023 18:27:14 GMT -5
Dead but rising.....I'm expecting a mack blitz soon...........and I will punish them
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Post by tears143 on Oct 14, 2023 21:43:15 GMT -5
saturday 14.. from 4pm till night. Dead as well. Bait got shatter.. There are a few mack around but too far inbetween. a few bluerunners, a lonely bonita might show up. Some snappers, ladyfish, and small groupers..
Don't get out there... very slow.
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Post by conureman on Oct 15, 2023 0:49:11 GMT -5
Was about to go out there as we speak but then you pospted so I'll stay home today since last 2 reports showed lack of activity. Hopefully conditions will improve in the upcoming week.
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Post by tears143 on Oct 15, 2023 7:29:41 GMT -5
Was about to go out there as we speak but then you pospted so I'll stay home today since last 2 reports showed lack of activity. Hopefully conditions will improve in the upcoming week. I will check it out again today.. cold front plus my pass is still good.
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Post by stuckintherocks on Oct 15, 2023 11:02:59 GMT -5
Just wondering has it still been 2 tide days while y’all were out ?
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Post by shot33gun9 on Oct 15, 2023 11:26:33 GMT -5
Changed back to 4 tide days on the 9th and they are strong now
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Post by stuckintherocks on Oct 15, 2023 13:12:09 GMT -5
Bummer, gonna be out there Tuesday was hoping for another National Geographic day. Maybe next year
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Post by shot33gun9 on Oct 15, 2023 14:24:59 GMT -5
Love strong tides for macks, can fish both tides without waiting for hrs. I call them quick turnaround tides. But I normally make 15 casts and get 15 macks, then head home........hahahaha
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Post by conureman on Oct 15, 2023 14:42:40 GMT -5
Seems Thursday through sunday will be 2 tide days
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Post by cabowabo on Oct 15, 2023 14:47:42 GMT -5
I dont want to be a debbie downer but 2-tide days a.k.a. neap tides are typically the worst days to fish.
Did the pier have 1 good day on a neap tide and now people think thats what is needed?
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Post by Flatsrunner on Oct 15, 2023 16:13:53 GMT -5
Was about to go out there as we speak but then you pospted so I'll stay home today since last 2 reports showed lack of activity. Hopefully conditions will improve in the upcoming week. I will check it out again today.. cold front plus my pass is still good. State just said they are cutting cost of all entrance fees to state parks passes and licenses by 50 % for 3 months I think. Will that cover fees at the piers also?
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Post by stuckintherocks on Oct 15, 2023 17:39:00 GMT -5
I dont want to be a debbie downer but 2-tide days a.k.a. neap tides are typically the worst days to fish. Did the pier have 1 good day on a neap tide and now people think thats what is needed? It’s the opposite. There was 1 good day on a 4 tide day, next day back to 2 tides and no one’s caught shi* since was hoping the switch back to 4 tides would bring the bite back
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Post by fishsci on Oct 15, 2023 20:29:42 GMT -5
I dont want to be a debbie downer but 2-tide days a.k.a. neap tides are typically the worst days to fish. Did the pier have 1 good day on a neap tide and now people think thats what is needed? Just so others are not confused, neap tides are tides that are not very high or very low, and usually happen on semidiurnal tide days (4 tides a day). Perhaps you mean 2 highs and two lows when you call them 2-tide days. On 2-tide (one high, and one low) days, the tide comes in farther (are not neap, but are called king tides) and are higher/lower, and the currents are higher around mid way between the top and bottom of the tide. However, which (2 or 4 tides) are better for fishing is not just about the tide. A lot depends on the timing of the tide. A nice incoming tide in the early morning often results in good fishing -- but not always. It seems the fish know more about the tides and their effects on where they should be and how much they are feeding, than we do. Then there are many other factors, such as the wind speed and direction and its effect on water clarity and movement, that affect when and where fish are at any time.
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Post by conureman on Oct 15, 2023 20:50:41 GMT -5
I will check it out again today.. cold front plus my pass is still good. State just said they are cutting cost of all entrance fees to state parks passes and licenses by 50 % for 3 months I think. Will that cover fees at the piers also? So what I've read it's the annual pass for state parks that is getting 50% off with also sportsman license as well. Don't know if it also works with the piers.
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Post by cabowabo on Oct 16, 2023 7:44:30 GMT -5
I dont want to be a debbie downer but 2-tide days a.k.a. neap tides are typically the worst days to fish. Did the pier have 1 good day on a neap tide and now people think thats what is needed? Just so others are not confused, neap tides are tides that are not very high or very low, and usually happen on semidiurnal tide days (4 tides a day). Perhaps you mean 2 highs and two lows when you call them 2-tide days. On 2-tide (one high, and one low) days, the tide comes in farther (are not neap, but are called king tides) and are higher/lower, and the currents are higher around mid way between the top and bottom of the tide. However, which (2 or 4 tides) are better for fishing is not just about the tide. A lot depends on the timing of the tide. A nice incoming tide in the early morning often results in good fishing -- but not always. It seems the fish know more about the tides and their effects on where they should be and how much they are feeding, than we do. Then there are many other factors, such as the wind speed and direction and its effect on water clarity and movement, that affect when and where fish are at any time. A neap tide occurs in the 1st and 3rd quarter of a moon, thus is the result of slow tidal movements. If we get very technical, a neap tide can occur on either a 2-tide day or 4-tide day. However, the easist indicator to a normal person without anaylazing data is a 2-tide day with a very slow incoming/outgoing is most assocaited to neap tides. What stage was the moon in last week... we just pasted a full moon soo... Fishsci, you seem very knowledgeable about everything that involves fishing besides the actual catching of the fish... You will never talk me down from the hill i stand on in trying to state that a neap tide will consistently produce good fishing. If yall slayed the bobos and macks on the pier for 2-3 days after a full moon. Id say the bait and water temp was a bigger factor.... in addition to right place right time.
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Post by stuckintherocks on Oct 16, 2023 9:40:12 GMT -5
And I think all y’all think about the crap too much. Who cares dude just go fishing
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Post by fishsci on Oct 16, 2023 11:10:06 GMT -5
WARNING, WARNING....DO NOT READ THE FOLLOWING IF YOU HAVE ALERGIES TO INFORMATION AND LEARNING --- LOL!
Anyone here is free to think what they want to think. There is no problem with them posting it here -- as long as they don't claim that it is based on facts, when it is not. The truth of the matter is that Tampa Bay tides are very complicated and do not conform to the generality of neap tides occurring during 1st and last quarter of the moon. On October 6, the fishing day in question, the moon was in the last quarter phase, but according to NOAA, the tides were diurnal (one high, one low per day). The tidal range (high - low height) was 1.8 ft), which is not a neap tide (even though the moon was 3rd quarter. Just two days ago the moon was new, but there were 4 tides a day, and the tidal range was very small (1.6 ft). The upshot of this is that one cannot always estimate tidal range and current speeds in Tampa Bay based on the moon phase, particularly in the spring and fall. Plus, if you try, you should at least know what the moon phase actually is. You just said ... we just passed a full moon ..., but the full moon was over half a month ago on Sept. 29
Your awareness of the moon phase must be as wrong as your awareness of my fishing. I can guarantee that my fishing experience, diversity, success and knowleged far exceeds yours, so you should not be making claims that are not based on facts...moon, tides, or my fishing.
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Post by fishsci on Oct 16, 2023 11:20:36 GMT -5
WARNING, WARNING....DO NOT READ THE FOLLOWING IF YOU HAVE ALERGIES TO INFORMATION AND LEARNING --- LOL! Anyone here is free to think what they want to think. There is no problem with them posting it here -- as long as they don't claim that it is based on facts, when it is not. The truth of the matter is that Tampa Bay tides are very complicated and do not conform to the generality of neap tides occurring during 1st and last quarter of the moon. On October 6, the fishing day in question, the moon was in the last quarter phase, but according to NOAA, the tides were diurnal (one high, one low per day). The tidal range (high - low height) was 1.8 ft), which is not a neap tide (even though the moon was 3rd quarter. Just two days ago the moon was new, but there were 4 tides a day, and the tidal range was very small (1.6 ft). The upshot of this is that one cannot always estimate tidal range and current speeds in Tampa Bay based on the moon phase, particularly in the spring and fall. Plus, if you try, you should at least know what the moon phase actually is. You just said ... we just passed a full moon ..., but the full moon was over half a month ago on Sept. 29 Your awareness of the moon phase must be as wrong as your awareness of my fishing. I can guarantee that my fishing experience, diversity, success and knowleged far exceeds yours, so you should not be making claims that are not based on facts...moon, tides, or my fishing.
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Post by shot33gun9 on Oct 16, 2023 12:11:04 GMT -5
Two tide days have the weakest current, how high or low they go doesn't matter to me, they are still slow as crap. You can verify this with a tide chart that lists tidal coefficients and they are usually in the mid 30s to low 40s. That is slow folks
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