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Post by conureman on Aug 1, 2023 18:25:27 GMT -5
 Caught on light blue spoons in the morning. Macks were not there today besides these two.snapper were being caught as usual. Later in the afternoon when the water was rough a group were catching crabs and using them as bait to catch sheepshead. Might try again on Thursday or Friday and then the usual sunday |
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Post by shot33gun9 on Aug 1, 2023 19:47:43 GMT -5
Light blue spoons.......
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Post by stuckintherocks on Aug 1, 2023 20:26:16 GMT -5
Kudos to you for even being able to get those macks… was slow as hell for me today
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Post by seabird on Aug 2, 2023 7:21:15 GMT -5
Never heard of light blue spoons...but whatever works! |
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Post by bluerunner on Aug 3, 2023 20:17:11 GMT -5
How yall use spoons? I saw someone mention to tie a barrel swivel with heavy egg sinker then another barrel swivel (so that the egg weight is captured between the swivels) with a long leader line with your spoon attached.
Is this about the best way to do it? Would this work the same for gotcha plugs off the pier? I know being high up on the pier, some of these lures don't work as well because of the steep incline compared to fishing from a boat/land.
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Post by conureman on Aug 3, 2023 20:54:03 GMT -5
How yall use spoons? I saw someone mention to tie a barrel swivel with heavy egg sinker then another barrel swivel (so that the egg weight is captured between the swivels) with a long leader line with your spoon attached. Is this about the best way to do it? Would this work the same for gotcha plugs off the pier? I know being high up on the pier, some of these lures don't work as well because of the steep incline compared to fishing from a boat/land. I use a 4oz egg sinker with built in swivels with about 10 to 12 ft flouro or mono leader to a spoon but make sure your rod can handle the wieght. I don't know if it works with a gotcha plug but maybe some one can can help answer that question. |
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Post by carlf on Aug 4, 2023 6:27:51 GMT -5
Gotcha is heavy enough to be worked by itself, no need for weight.
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Post by shot33gun9 on Aug 4, 2023 10:27:13 GMT -5
Gotcha plug is a topwater lure, effective with rod twitching to make it dart from side to side. Point your rod straight down toward the water when fishing the piers to help keep it from hopping. I hate those plugs
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Post by fishsci on Aug 4, 2023 10:55:04 GMT -5
Gotcha plug is a topwater lure, effective with rod twitching to make it dart from side to side. Point your rod straight down toward the water when fishing the piers to help keep it from hopping. I hate those plugs Actually, Gotcha-type lures are not topwater lures. At least they are not designed to be topwater. If used on high pier like the Skyway, and if they are retrieved too fast and incorrectly, they are almost a topwater lure, in that they will just skim under the surface of the water. They effective way to fish one is to cast it out, let it sink to the bottom, then retrieve it while jigging the rod hard (yes, best with the rod tip pointed down toward the water (and retr;ieving moderately fast, until it reaches near the surface. Then pause the retrive, and let it sink again and repeat the above. The important thing is to impart the side to side action. At times when mackerel are very abundant and very aggressive, they will hit the Gotcha when it is retrieved fast and just below the surface. At times when the current is running fast toward you, it can stay a little lower in the water column, maybe a few feet, and the lure can be retrieved effectively without pausing and letting it sink, but only if it is not retrieved too fast and is jigged very fast and hard. I can understand why anyone who fishes that type of lure as a topwater -- because they usually will have little success that way. Finally, if a Gotch were to be fished behind a 3-4 oz. sinker and long leader, the way spoons are, they might catch an occasional fish, However they would not have the side-to-side action that makes them effective otherwise. Plus those two treble hooks would present a nightmare in terms of tangling with the long leader and big sinker as they are cast out. |
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Post by shot33gun9 on Aug 4, 2023 11:43:47 GMT -5
Very good fishsci, sinker rigs with spoons and long leaders will get tangled as well if you let the trailing leader fall on top of the sinker. Take a look at other folks leader just below the sinker and it will be kinked really bad and just an ugly mess from entanglement. Took me a while but I have solved that and never get my leader wrapped around my sinker. For a hefty fee(a case of Modelo)I will gladly give instructions on how to avoid it.
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Post by fishsci on Aug 4, 2023 14:57:37 GMT -5
Very good fishsci, sinker rigs with spoons and long leaders will get tangled as well if you let the trailing leader fall on top of the sinker. Take a look at other folks leader just below the sinker and it will be kinked really bad and just an ugly mess from entanglement. Took me a while but I have solved that and never get my leader wrapped around my sinker. For a hefty fee(a case of Modelo)I will gladly give instructions on how to avoid it. Interesting...I am tempted to pay the fee. However, I like to do things for myself, so I will first try to figure it out myself. I do think there have been some past posts about that problem, and I will look for them. I think the solution has to do with using a heavy lb-test mono section of the leader below the sinker, with a short section of lighter leader tied to the spoon so that the leader is not easily seen by the sharp-eyed mackerel. |
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Post by shot33gun9 on Aug 4, 2023 16:02:31 GMT -5
It has nothing to do with leader size, it's about what you do with your weak hand just before the sinker starts to fall to the water...here's a clue, feathering
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Post by fishsci on Aug 4, 2023 20:54:53 GMT -5
It has nothing to do with leader size, it's about what you do with your weak hand just before the sinker starts to fall to the water...here's a clue, feathering Nice clue -- makes enough sense that it might save me that case of Corona. However, it is nice enought to offer and share a few Coronas with you if we ever end up casting spoons near each other on the pier. Thanks. |
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Post by navygmc on Aug 5, 2023 22:14:43 GMT -5
Using a sinker/spoon rig..... you need to make sure the spoon/lure is light weight...so that it trails the weight...otherwise you will get a lot of tangles. With the sinker/spoon rig.... cast out....and just before the sinker hits water....get tension on your line (I hit line at a 90° angle from spool with hand)... that way...spoon "flings" past weight and out of way of tangles. If throwing into an oncoming current.... start slowly reeling to ...allow sinker to get down...and to also keep spoon (since it is light) behind weight.
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