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Post by shot33gun9 on Jul 20, 2023 16:18:58 GMT -5
Well MM, it's obvious he has a distinct dislike for you. He's mad about something, what is it?
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Post by Flatsrunner on Jul 20, 2023 19:26:25 GMT -5
so if i replace all the hooks on a topwater plug with a single, non-treble hook on the tail end, is it legal??? Yes. Replacing a Treble Hook to a Single Hook on a Lure is Legal. I did that over 2 years ago because I knew that this crap was coming. The FWC just wants to get the Treble Hook off of the Skyway Pier's Agenda just to please the Bird People because they won't stop. Sometimes We have to give a little to get what We need. It could have been much worse. Is a lure with two single hooks considered a legal lure? like some top water lures?
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Post by shot33gun9 on Jul 20, 2023 19:33:29 GMT -5
Not according to what will be banned in Oct. Says no multi-hooks are allowed, single hook only
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Post by Mackerelman on Jul 20, 2023 21:07:26 GMT -5
Yes. Replacing a Treble Hook to a Single Hook on a Lure is Legal. I did that over 2 years ago because I knew that this crap was coming. The FWC just wants to get the Treble Hook off of the Skyway Pier's Agenda just to please the Bird People because they won't stop. Sometimes We have to give a little to get what We need. It could have been much worse. Is a lure with two single hooks considered a legal lure? like some top water lures? 1 Hook only per lure. Say that You are Fishing with a Pompano Jig with a Treble Hook; that is No Longer Allowed at the Skyway Piers. You can only have 1 Hook on the Pompano Jig.
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Post by Mackerelman on Jul 20, 2023 21:15:09 GMT -5
Well MM, it's obvious he has a distinct dislike for you. He's mad about something, what is it? Maybe because I have a 9,000 Member Facebook Fishing Site & He doesn't. Else, I have No Idea !
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Post by fishsci on Jul 20, 2023 21:49:33 GMT -5
Have you ever paused "praising yourself"? He sometimes sounds like an Old Woman without Her Dry Panties. Never an Appreciation or Good Comment from Him. He thinks that He is the only Fisherman out there & the one in charge. Just let Him be. Sigh! -- that from a couple of members who in the past have claimed that I am a bad guy because they claimed that I had made personal attacks that are not proper on this forum -- pot calling the kettle black .... As for the FWC rule meeting that so many failed to find it important enough to attend, or to make effective comments, this is going to come around again...sadly after we have to suffer from the mostly-unreasonable rules for two years at least. Next time, folks should think about how the process works. Comments that are sent by email, are very ineffective, compared to comments made during a meeting. It is so easy for the Commission staff to ignore, or just tabulate comments that are emailed in. Comments in person or virtually at the meeing at which the decisions are being considered are what are needed and are so much more influential. I know that many do not understand that one does not have to really take time away from other obligations to make virtual comments. It is just a matter of signing in on your phone, and waiting for your name to be called. In the mean time, you can continue with other things that you might have to be doing. However, it is very valuable to be able to follow the other comments as much as you can -- so you can address or refute any previous comments that you think are incorrect. And no, it is not enough to just make the same old almost meaningless comments like complaining that the bird people feed the birds. They have heard that over and over again, and realize that it does nothing to find a way to solve the problem -- it already is illegal to feed the birds. The Staff has to be confronted with reasonable, rational facts (angry, hot-headed, irrational statemets are so easily seen and are discounted) that do not allow them to just go ahead with what they already had planned to do -- based on their lack of understanding of fishing. If we could do the above in the future, we not have our asses kicked by the birders (and most of us actually do want to do reasonable things to reduce damage to pelicans) -- when the next time comes around.
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Post by fishsci on Jul 20, 2023 22:00:33 GMT -5
Well MM, it's obvious he has a distinct dislike for you. He's mad about something, what is it? Maybe because I have a 9,000 Member Facebook Fishing Site & He doesn't. Else, I have No Idea ! LOL, no....LMAO....one claims I am praising myself -- never said anything like that -- and the next one agrees and piles onto the same thing and then says it is because he has a 9,000 member facebook site...BFD. You tell me who is praising himself LMFAO! But maybe that kind of stuff is why he is hard to not like.
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Post by bluerunner on Jul 20, 2023 22:10:21 GMT -5
F the sea birds. And what this bat crap crazy bird turd look like so I can look out for her when I go to the piers.
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Post by fishingmagician on Jul 21, 2023 8:30:58 GMT -5
Here is a topic for discussion, if you remove treble hooks from lures, gotchas and diving plugs and replace with a single J hook, would you put the single hook on the front or back ? My opinion would be, small lures for Mackerel, hook on back, large lures for Groupers, hook on front. But this will be a new technique that will need to be acquired from trial and error.
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Post by Flatsrunner on Jul 21, 2023 10:02:32 GMT -5
Maybe because I have a 9,000 Member Facebook Fishing Site & He doesn't. Else, I have No Idea ! LOL, no....LMAO....one claims I am praising myself -- never said anything like that -- and the next one agrees and piles onto the same thing and then says it is because he has a 9,000 member facebook site...BFD. You tell me who is praising himself LMFAO! But maybe that kind of stuff is why he is hard to not like. I only see one person that that doesn't want to listen to anyone else including Mackerelman, and that is you Fishsci. You seem to think your opinion and techniques are the only one that matters. per example when someone else posted a picture of mackerel were biting and you stated that you wanted proof despite a photo being there, which several people had to correct you on that post,If you want to give your input on fishing, plenty of people are willing to listen but not when you constantly try to tell everyone their way is wrong. You came on this forum looking for someone to fill in on offshore trips, why is that? they might have had enough of your narrow minded view on every thing also?
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Post by shot33gun9 on Jul 21, 2023 10:29:29 GMT -5
Fishingmagician, how's it going? Concerning the hook changes I have never cared for those gotcha plugs, once I got one stuck in my leg so they need to go lol. Single hook spoons and jigs will catch lots of macks. I have over a dozen x-rap magnums, some I've never used, never caught any keepers with them just shorts, but I believe big 4oz single hook jigs with a wavy plastic tail attached is a better option for gags, easier to fish and much safer
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Post by carlf on Jul 21, 2023 11:26:51 GMT -5
I've seen and heard more people ending up with gotcha's stuck in body parts that any other lure. I don't like to use them because my shoulder and elbow ain't so young anymore.
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Post by shuttlecommander on Jul 21, 2023 11:33:05 GMT -5
If any of the board members ever get down to Naples the Ace hardware on Tamiami Trail has a large tackle dept and sells lures with single hooks.
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Post by fishsci on Jul 21, 2023 11:33:22 GMT -5
LOL, no....LMAO....one claims I am praising myself -- never said anything like that -- and the next one agrees and piles onto the same thing and then says it is because he has a 9,000 member facebook site...BFD. You tell me who is praising himself LMFAO! But maybe that kind of stuff is why he is hard to not like. I only see one person that that doesn't want to listen to anyone else including Mackerelman, and that is you Fishsci. You seem to think your opinion and techniques are the only one that matters. per example when someone else posted a picture of mackerel were biting and you stated that you wanted proof despite a photo being there, which several people had to correct you on that post,If you want to give your input on fishing, plenty of people are willing to listen but not when you constantly try to tell everyone their way is wrong. You came on this forum looking for someone to fill in on offshore trips, why is that? they might have had enough of your narrow minded view on every thing also? More personal attacks...
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Post by shot33gun9 on Jul 21, 2023 17:41:16 GMT -5
Yo fishsci, never figured you for a "whiner".
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Post by Mackerelman on Jul 21, 2023 20:30:47 GMT -5
LOL, no....LMAO....one claims I am praising myself -- never said anything like that -- and the next one agrees and piles onto the same thing and then says it is because he has a 9,000 member facebook site...BFD. You tell me who is praising himself LMFAO! But maybe that kind of stuff is why he is hard to not like. I only see one person that that doesn't want to listen to anyone else including Mackerelman, and that is you Fishsci. You seem to think your opinion and techniques are the only one that matters. per example when someone else posted a picture of mackerel were biting and you stated that you wanted proof despite a photo being there, which several people had to correct you on that post,If you want to give your input on fishing, plenty of people are willing to listen but not when you constantly try to tell everyone their way is wrong. You came on this forum looking for someone to fill in on offshore trips, why is that? they might have had enough of your narrow minded view on every thing also? This is why I stopped posting Pictures of the Skyway's catches. Anglers Post the Pictures on My Site on Facebook & I pick then up & post them on here. Then fishsci wants to know where on the pier I caught them at & at what time & what the weather conditions & water temperatures were. That is when I Deleted them. Most of the people on here knows that I haven't been Fishing in over 2 years due to Me getting a bad case of Skin Cancer. I guess that he doesn't get it so I stopped posting the Pictures. By the way, some Nice Snappers are being caught out there.
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Post by shot33gun9 on Jul 21, 2023 20:46:44 GMT -5
Dang MM you stung him bad with your post...however, he might be immune
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Post by Mackerelman on Jul 21, 2023 21:19:23 GMT -5
Dang MM you stung him bad with your post...however, he might be immune He'll Be Back !
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