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Post by Look'n4Tuna on Jul 23, 2008 21:12:24 GMT -5
Ok, here's a few questions that you regulars may find trivial, but please amuse me:
- When someone catches a larger fish how do they get it up on the pier?
- How does a newbie make it easier to identify fish while trying ensure fish that need to go back, make it back in minimal time?
- In the past I have been primarily a catch and release fisherman, what's the best way to release fish without "dropping" them off the pier?
- When fishing with a float, the outgoing tide is best?
- I'm currently using a Shimano Baitrunner 4500B w/20lb and a 7' medium/heavy action rod as my main rod, is this a decent setup?
Thanks,
Chris
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Post by jmfishin on Jul 23, 2008 21:20:42 GMT -5
it might work good to find out whats biting and what your most likley to catch. then serch the web for pics and the regs.
and have a tape measure and a regulation book handy
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Post by havetofish on Jul 23, 2008 21:36:06 GMT -5
Get yourself a drop net about $30-$40 depending on hwere you buy it. Best way to bring em up and put em back  Study some of the links here skywaypiers.proboards80.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=42scroll down a little for the fish ID link. You rig is fine for a lot of different fish, but most of us use heavy gear for grouper diggin, to keep them from rocking you up Hope this helps |
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Post by grouperscooper on Jul 23, 2008 21:55:44 GMT -5
Ok, here's a few questions that you regulars may find trivial, but please amuse me: - When someone catches a larger fish how do they get it up on the pier? - How does a newbie make it easier to identify fish while trying ensure fish that need to go back, make it back in minimal time? - In the past I have been primarily a catch and release fisherman, what's the best way to release fish without "dropping" them off the pier? - When fishing with a float, the outgoing tide is best? - I'm currently using a Shimano Baitrunner 4500B w/20lb and a 7' medium/heavy action rod as my main rod, is this a decent setup? Thanks, Chris #1 bridge net or bridge gaff #2 lotsa homework,and more time on the water. #3 can't drop'em,gotta toss'em  .but of course if it is a fish large enough to do harm by TOSSIN it over you more than likely got it up with a bridge net so this can be used to return your fish back to the water.bridge net...$25-$40. #4  #5 your stick should do you fine for what you'll encounter at the piers.you using 20# braid or mono?if usin 20#mono try bumpin it up to 30# braid.this will give you a little more to work with and i bet your casting will improve.(distance that is) Rich  |
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Post by SkyJay on Jul 23, 2008 21:58:32 GMT -5
Ok, here's a few questions that you regulars may find trivial, but please amuse me: - When someone catches a larger fish how do they get it up on the pier? Bridgenet (Large round net, lowered to water by handline), or Gaff (Only gaff LEGAL fish please) - How does a newbie make it easier to identify fish while trying ensure fish that need to go back, make it back in minimal time? Good one. Try this... Mark the top of your cooler with a permanent marker, at 12,18,and 22 inches, and try(Keyword being try) to memorize the Regs. the limits change frequently, so you have to stay on top of what's what. Also, Purchase an up to date Florida Sportsman Lawstick,. Invaluable tool, for Regulatory information. Study the various fish ID web pages, print yourself a guide, and test yourself regularly. I've played the what kind of fish is that game with my family, all thier lives until they are ALL Fish ID experts. Kinda fun actually, for the youngns.  - In the past I have been primarily a catch and release fisherman, what's the best way to release fish without "dropping" them off the pier? Once you purchase a Bridgenet, You can actually use it to gently return delicate species to the water. However MOST of the Species you will encounter at the SkyWay are pretty hardy. It's the time spent unhooking, and "Gently" returning the fish to the water that is the real issue. Keep a wet towel, and a quality dehooking device pierside, to speed things up. If you plan to Photograph your fish, please have your camera ready. Every breath that fish takes out of water, is one more reason not to survive release. Try not to drop,or let lay on dirty pavement. If hooked deep, cut the line... The hook will eventually deteriorate due to natural digestive fluids. Never try to remove a hook from a gut hooked fish. That is the number one killer, hence the recent advent of the circle hook. When fishing with a float, the outgoing tide is best? Tricky question. Sometimes fishing a float on an outgoing tide can be productive for Mackeral, and the like, but keep in mind when you stop the float the tide is going to continue to "ride" your bait up into the current. Often times it is more desirable to let your bait drift naturally with the current rather it be towards the bridge or away from it. On some very productive days most of the species you'll be targeting with a float rig, will be on the UPCURRENT side of the bridge where the bait tends to congregate more heavily. Fishing on the downcurrent side, only puts your bait even further away. (food for thought) - I'm currently using a Shimano Baitrunner 4500B w/20lb and a 7' medium/heavy action rod as my main rod, is this a decent setup? That Setup should work just fine Targeting Snapper, Mackeral, and Family Fun species. Larger Species such as Grouper, Snook, Tarpon ect. may require something a little heavier due to all the structure your'e fishing around. Keep in mind though them fish ain't dumb, and lighter tackle gets more bites! Hope that helps. Jay  Thanks, Chris |
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Post by montylfl on Jul 23, 2008 22:31:44 GMT -5
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Post by goindeep on Jul 24, 2008 4:06:25 GMT -5
I second that. Listen to jay and you will do okay!
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Post by Floridaboy on Jul 24, 2008 5:44:22 GMT -5
One more thing. When releasing undersized grouper, release them right next to a piling (instead of in the open water). It helps them elude Flipper.  |
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Post by SkyJay on Jul 24, 2008 17:10:54 GMT -5
 Excellent suggestion FloridaBoy...  Lord knows the Dolphins are eatin good enough without a bonus Grouper fer the day! ;D (Sons Of B!tc&e$) 
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Post by Look'n4Tuna on Jul 24, 2008 17:27:32 GMT -5
Boy, that's some good info you guys threw back at me. I was going to ask how they get those large sharks up that I see pictures of, but I read in another post about them tail roping them and pulling them up (sometimes with a car!!). As much as I would love to have my (or my son's) picture taken with something like that, I think I would just rather cut the line and let them go. Rather than pulling it up, when I really don't have the inclination of throwing that in the the back of my Jeep! Let 'em live to fight another day, I'll still have the memories in my my mind (and maybe a picture of it in the water). I stick with eating the smaller table fare fish.
Anyway, like I said, you guys threw back (no pun intended) some great info for me and anyone else with the same questions. Where would one find themself a bridge net? I've looked a few places and haven't found any, except on the internet.
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Post by SkyJay on Jul 24, 2008 17:32:11 GMT -5
Bait Shop had em at one time...
Southeastern Tackle on Nth. Fla. Ave. in Tampa, Maybe Kieth (SharkArk) can help ya out on that one to... I caught mine at the Gandy, in 1984, believe it or not!
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Post by fishintj on Jul 24, 2008 17:56:53 GMT -5
Bait shop on the South Pier had them a week ago. I believe they are now $45.00.
Would rather see that than a gaff just incase the fish turns out not to measure you didn't harm it.
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Post by SkyJay on Jul 24, 2008 19:33:02 GMT -5
DAMN...
GAFFS!...
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Post by Snooker on Jul 24, 2008 20:36:00 GMT -5
The south side pier bait shop is where i got my last pier net. Just like the one that havetofish picture posted earlier. $45 and it works great. Have netted a few nice blacktips n' spinners up to 3-4 ft' in it with little problem once ya tired em out. LOL A lil' difficult sumtimes if the fish is still a lil lively. ;D But hell, thats half the fun.
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Post by Look'n4Tuna on Jul 24, 2008 20:44:47 GMT -5
That's great, I'll have to pick one up the next time I'm down there. Because of the distance, I don't expect to get down there 'til the week of the 10th of Aug.  |
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Post by pascosal on Jul 24, 2008 21:04:45 GMT -5
besides the bait shop where could i get one of those nets, walmart doesnt seem to have them nor the sports authority either. any clue suggestions?
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Post by havetofish on Jul 24, 2008 23:31:02 GMT -5
Oldmar Flea market and Southeastern has them for $30.
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Post by eaglesfanguy on Jul 25, 2008 0:24:37 GMT -5
Hey! I have a gaff! Never used the damn thing.. lol.. its 4 months old and still wrapped in the original rubberbands..... I had a pier net but it was too bulky.. so i gave it to a friendly older fisherman.. he will get more use out of it.. I take my chances swinging em over.. since im normally after snappers or gags.. my power pro never let me down this far... Knock on wood.. |
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Post by Look'n4Tuna on Jul 27, 2008 11:23:16 GMT -5
I didn't realize that braided line was that much more expensive!! And most of it comes in spools that are only 200 yds or so. Very interesting.
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Post by montylfl on Jul 27, 2008 11:48:55 GMT -5
I usally take my reels to a Tackle shop and let them fill with braided line. for 20 bucks they fill the reel with 20 lb PP. @ 400 yards on most of my reels. You may be able to do cheaper but i find in convenant.
Other option is be pre fill the spool with mono and at the 200 yds of braided on top. I did try this once and worked very well. However you do have to be careful. Over time the braid may cut into your mono if you catch a lot of fish that take a lot of line like those bonito at the pier.
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Post by havetofish on Jul 27, 2008 12:47:42 GMT -5
Monty,
If I did my math right, thats .05 a yard. I don't know anywhere you can get line spooled for that. Where is this place? Its usually .10 - .20 a yard depending on the weight.
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Post by fishintj on Jul 27, 2008 18:35:59 GMT -5
You are actually better off using a little shot of mono though because on some spools the braid will slip causing the reel to seem like the drag doesn't work. Also I agree with getting the reels filled at a tackle shop as it seems to limit the number of wind knots that braid causes.
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Great post
