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Snook
Sept 7, 2023 9:56:24 GMT -5
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Post by blacktip on Sept 7, 2023 9:56:24 GMT -5
This is all part of the new "social science" approach to fiah management coastalanglermag.com/attention-florida-snook-anglers/Making snook catch and release only in the Tampa Bay Region Adding September to the closed season for the Southwest Region Establishing a two fish per vessel limit statewide
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Snook
Sept 7, 2023 13:00:49 GMT -5
Post by Flatsrunner on Sept 7, 2023 13:00:49 GMT -5
Great. something else we won't be able to harvest in Tampa Bay.
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Snook
Sept 7, 2023 13:20:01 GMT -5
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Post by shot33gun9 on Sept 7, 2023 13:20:01 GMT -5
Just what the local charter captains have been pushing for, impossible for them to make money off a fish that someone took home
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Snook
Sept 7, 2023 14:00:21 GMT -5
Post by Flatsrunner on Sept 7, 2023 14:00:21 GMT -5
It's almost catch n release now in Tampa bay, you can catch 24" snook all day and maybe a slot now and then. If they take another month away before long they be working on taking October also. Their method of determining fish stocks is not realistic, look at lane snapper and that ridiculous lottery system for catching a Goliath grouper, The people who it will affect the most have the least say so. And voicing your opinion to FWC won't help. Perfect example was that Skyway crap, How did that turn out? When they come up with this statement, it means they have already made up their mind.
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Snook
Sept 7, 2023 21:09:43 GMT -5
Post by fishsci on Sept 7, 2023 21:09:43 GMT -5
It is a shame that that virtual meeting was not better publicized. Although the post was made here about 6 hours before the meeting time, I did not see it, and thus could not "attend" the meeting. These days, often there is nothing new posted for a couple of days, so most of us are not checking for postings several times a day.
I would hope that there will be others than myself who will submit comments to the Commission, but I doubt it. Making critical comments does nothing. Some reasonable ideas are needed.
Here are some ideas that should be considered. The for-hire guides are almost surely making the biggest negative impacts on snook populations. Some guides have refined the live-bait chumming technique such that they catch dozens and dozens of snook on a trip. Most of those catch-release snook survive, but a few do not, and that adds up over time. Also, those guides (and a few private fishermen that practice live chumming) catch and keep their 1-per person limit of slot snook. That category probably adds up to more snook killed than those that are killed by all the other fishermen put together. I suggest that live chumming should be no longer be permitted.
It does not seem fair to Florida resident fishermen that a tourist can hire a guide and catch and keep a snook or several for the party in a single day, while the resident fisherman does not kill that many snook in an entire year. Plus, it sickens me to see guides post pictures week after week showing their tourist patrons posing with snook for pictures before releasing them. A fish held out of the water long enough to be held securely by a tourist for that picture, has a much higher chance of damage that could lead it to not survive when finally released.
I suggest that non-residents (who do not even have to purchase a license, because the guide has the for-hire license) should not be permitted to keep a single snook, let alone two per boat.
Finally, I suggest that snook should be managed like salmon are in many places where instead of a daily limit, anglers have to purchase a salmon card that allows them to keep only a small number of salmon each season. Each time a salmon is harvested, the card has to be punched to show the day that a salmon has been harvested. Once the individual has harvested the allotted number (like 6 or 10 fish), the angler cannot keep another fish that season. There is no reason snook can't be regulated that way, and it would stop the few fish-hogs that harvest large numbers of snook every season. Plus, reducing the overall harvest that way could allow longer open seasons.
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Post by bridgeman213 on Sept 8, 2023 9:43:11 GMT -5
Inshore species like snook and redfish benifit from these proposed regulations but it seems to benifit commercial interests more than recreational anglers. Slot limits and closed seasons do very little to preserve populations offshore, what's the benifit of releasing a nice fat red grouper after its been vented only to watch it be eaten by flipper or jaws. I feel that ultimately they'd like to take your fishing gear in the end. The tree hugging bird loving activists keep getting their way they'll keep tightening the thumbscrews.
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Post by seabird on Sept 9, 2023 10:46:58 GMT -5
Looks like sometime soon, all we can take will be grunts, pinfish and catfish.
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fishtailz
Rod Polisher
Hour and a half drive to get there but love the skyway piers. Big fish available.
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Post by fishtailz on Sept 10, 2023 4:30:17 GMT -5
That could quite possibly be classified as a Skyway " TRASHCAN SLAM. " A highly sought after trophy on any pier rats bucket list that only the seasoned fisherman is able to accomplish. Best of Luck.
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Post by Flatsrunner on Sept 10, 2023 4:39:50 GMT -5
It's shows how bad the pier fishing is at times that we are happy to get a trash can slam, I missed a chance to post all my Trash Can Slams.
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