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Post by SkyJay on Aug 29, 2008 16:08:06 GMT -5
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Post by bcc on Aug 29, 2008 16:13:32 GMT -5
HIGHWAY BRIDGE REPLACEMENT AND REHABILITATION PROGRAM FUNDING OF BRIDGE INSPECTIONS (23 CFR 650.413). The FHWA has determined that it is consistent with the purpose of the HBRRP to allow the use of bridge program funds for the biennial continued inspection of bridges.
HIGHWAY BRIDGE REPLACEMENT AND REHABILITATION PROGRAM (23 CFR 650.409). The National Bridge Inventory will be used for preparing the selection list of bridges both on and off of Federal-aid highways. Highway bridges considered structurally deficient or functionally obsolete and with a sufficiency rating of 80 or less will be used for the selection list. Those bridges appearing on the list with a sufficiency rating of less than 50.0 will be eligible for replacement or rehabilitation while those with a sufficiency rating of 80.0 or less will be eligible for rehabilitation. To be considered for the classification of deficient bridge, a structure must be of bridge length, and had not been constructed or had major reconstruction within the past 10 years.
looks like they might be able to help good find skyjay
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Post by SkyJay on Aug 29, 2008 16:27:17 GMT -5
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Post by bcc on Aug 29, 2008 16:42:16 GMT -5
Its all done in secret so we citizens have to really dig to get the truth before we can any kind of meaninful complaint that warrents looking into.
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Post by havetofish on Aug 29, 2008 16:57:04 GMT -5
Some good research there Jay. Someone needs to find out if it would apply for a Pier that was once a bridge.
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Post by SkyJay on Aug 29, 2008 17:32:26 GMT -5
I kind of look at it like this... The Pier Used to Be a Bridge, but now it's a State Park... Right? O.K., Ask who's in charge of what and you get a Multi Department pass the Buck answer. Sooo... Irregardless of WHERE the money already collected went... ("General LOL Fund) And who' is in charge of what area of responsibility, The fact still remains it is a State Park, Public Property of the citizens of Florida Etc. If FDOT is responsible for maintaining the "Bridge" to the "State Park", that just happens to be a Priceless part of, and to our community, and they are out of money, then Surely The Federal Government wouldn't mind stepping in and lending a hand... If for no better reason than to shut us up, and get us out of their hair! Let alone to rescue a historical Landmark, visited and Enjoyed by hundreds of thousands of people from all over the World, every year!!! Maybe the Pier isn't officially recognized as a "Historical Landmark" yet, but I'd lay ya odds more Tourist visit the Skyway, than some of you're less entertaining sites around the State/Country. Sooo.. It just seems to me, ya never know!!(until ye try ;D) If we are going to pull this off we have to hit em from every angle people!!! SJ SAVE THE PIERS
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Post by captbob on Aug 29, 2008 18:28:10 GMT -5
Hi, SJ and pier rats. I applaud your quick organizing and efforts to save the piers. Unfortunately, emails, phone calls, and petitions are easily ignored by our elected officials and others who eat the jumbo shrimp. There is an old water tower in Tampa that was going to be demolished and turned into a strip mall by CVS pharmacy. It was saved by the local residents taking CVS to court. The water tower is now an historic land mark. My point is, without greasing their palms or suing in court, they prevail. I have seen this over and over in Florida. We, the working class just don't count. I am truly sorry this happened and has spoiled a good thing for so many good people. Bob
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Post by captbob on Aug 29, 2008 18:29:59 GMT -5
Hi, SJ and pier rats. I applaud your quick organizing and efforts to save the piers. Unfortunately, emails, phone calls, and petitions are easily ignored by our elected officials and others who eat the jumbo shrimp. There is an old water tower in Tampa that was going to be demolished and turned into a strip mall by CVS pharmacy. It was saved by the local residents taking CVS to court. The water tower is now an historic land mark. My point is, without greasing their palms or suing in court, they prevail. I have seen this over and over in Florida. We, the working class just don't count. I am truly sorry this happened and has spoiled a good thing for so many good people. Bob
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Post by SkyJay on Aug 29, 2008 18:47:14 GMT -5
So in other words we need to organize, right? Perhaps one of you folks is/or knows an attorney/paralegal, who would be willing to help get this thing off the ground. Seems first we need to form a non profit corporation, and elect board members by vote to entrust funds to. Next step in my minds eye would be to open a non profit corporate Bank Account where people could send donations to. These funds could be used to pay any legal fees incurred, facilitate meetings, publish public awareness ads and articles, flyer's, etc. to canvass more volunteers, "grease palms", win the fight, and ultimately go towards restoring the fishing Piers back to better than they were before. If we just give up, well then we just gave up!!! Sorry, I for one am not quite ready to do that just yet!!! There has got to be a way! Thanks for your insight, and your input Capt.! You the man... (Can't wait to get back on the Cajun... The kids are all gettin their schedules coordinated for a little Family trip! See ya soon my friend! SJ "Friends Of The Skyway Piers" SAVE THE PIERS!
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Post by captbob on Aug 29, 2008 18:56:46 GMT -5
Mr. SkyJay, YOU think out of the box! Most of us regular people wouldn't think to take it that far, but that's what's needed. The people who saved the 1925 water tower formed an organization "Friends of the River" (The tower is on the banks of the Hillsborough River.) As long as the struture is standing, it's not too late. Breaking for supper, Bob
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Post by bcc on Aug 29, 2008 19:33:08 GMT -5
So in other words we need to organize, right? Perhaps one of you folks is/or knows an attorney/paralegal, who would be willing to help get this thing off the ground. Seems first we need to form a non profit corporation, and elect board members by vote to entrust funds to. Next step in my minds eye would be to open a non profit corporate Bank Account where people could send donations to. These funds could be used to pay any legal fees incurred, facilitate meetings, publish public awareness ads and articles, flyer's, etc. to canvass more volunteers, "grease palms", win the fight, and ultimately go towards restoring the fishing Piers back to better than they were before. If we just give up, well then we just gave up!!! Sorry, I for one am not quite ready to do that just yet!!! There has got to be a way! Thanks for your insight, and your input Capt.! You the man... (Can't wait to get back on the Cajun... The kids are all gettin their schedules coordinated for a little Family trip! See ya soon my friend! SJ "Friends Of The Skyway Piers" SAVE THE PIERS!
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Post by pascosal on Aug 29, 2008 19:59:43 GMT -5
class action lawsuit!!!!
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