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Post by phishead on Oct 17, 2019 15:22:36 GMT -5
If the current is fairly strong do you guys see anything wrong with add a split shot or two just to make sure the pinfish is toward the bottom. I’m not talking about really strong current where you really need 3-5 oz of lead to pin the fish down.
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Post by tears143 on Oct 17, 2019 15:32:18 GMT -5
No issue.
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Post by Mackerelman on Oct 17, 2019 15:34:00 GMT -5
As for Me, I do not Add a Split-Shot.
Just Hook Your Live Bait(Pinfish or Whatever) behind the Anal Fin.
He will go down to the Bottom.
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Post by biggulp on Oct 18, 2019 12:51:23 GMT -5
When freelining, the pinfish does indeed go to the bottom. But after about 10-15 minutes with a decent current, the bait ends up floating up on top getting dragged by the water (still alive, but too weak to swim I guess?). Is this normal and I would just have to replace with a fresh one?
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Post by tears143 on Oct 18, 2019 14:14:56 GMT -5
It is normal.. after freelining like 2x change with new bait. Anal hooking the pinfish.. you can only let line out.. If you tried to reel them in, it will sufferted and get tire. So I would only reel them in once and check bait.. if it's good let it back out.. if no good, get a new one.
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Post by Mackerelman on Oct 18, 2019 14:28:08 GMT -5
It is normal.. after freelining like 2x change with new bait. Anal hooking the pinfish.. you can only let line out.. If you tried to reel them in, it will sufferted and get tire. So I would only reel them in once and check bait.. if it's good let it back out.. if no good, get a new one. Very True ! |
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Post by SkyJay on Oct 18, 2019 15:35:47 GMT -5
every now and then tighten up on
em and pop the line with your fingertip.
(pop wiggle give em a little slack
pop if you can visualize)
it'll scare em and they'll struggle down.
if you cant feel them popping and struggling
and kicking for the bottom thats not good.
if you start to feel a throbbing pull
to your line that means theyve given
up and turned sideways in the current
and are proly on top.
a good idea is to catch your bait prior
to actually fishing so youve got a good
steady supply and you can stick
and move at will.
trying to add weight usually only causes
problems.
just barely hook em through the anal
fin. trying not to damage or injur
to badly.
I had a guy walk up to me complaining
one time he couldnt keep his
bait down. How the hell do you do that
he asked thats gotta be 100 lb test youre
using?!?!
it is I said.
Looking at his dead pinfish i could
see he was hooking the bait to far in
right through the vitals and his belly.
theres yer trouble sparky
yer killin yer bait before you
even stck it out there.
he looked at me in disbelief with
slumped shoulders and dragged
his feet as he walked away.
I wont mention any names but
he's a member who rarely if
ever posts here anymore
but he went on to be one ot
the best ever at pulling keeper
gags from the rockpiles.
it takes practice
but its magic when you finally
learn it
I do it offshore even
and the freeline
usually accounts for the largest
most unique catches in the box some
trips.
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Post by SkyJay on Oct 18, 2019 16:13:48 GMT -5
another thing is to move back and forth
sideways as you let your line out.
this one I learned from Scooter.
When you reel your bait all the way
in to do another drift it traumatizes
the bait and shortens it's usefull
lifespan.
What you can do is let the bait out say
about 50 yards. stop wait for a bite.
walk to your left at ssp about 50 yards.
(very slowly, scooter used to barely
roll along kinda like a slow troll)
stop let out another 20 yds of line.
can you still feel your bait popping?
good now walk back north again to your
original starting point. wait ( if you havent
gotten slammed by now) repeat.
you cover way more area, faster and
more efficiently using less bait and
will get more bites than standing in
one place.
and forget any notions the fish are all
stacked up in one particular area, so if
its busy and somebody's in "your"
spot dont lose heart.
theres fish all over out there.
find another rock pile and hit it.
and then the next.
stay mobile and keep moving.
be friendly and establish a rapport with
folks as you go offering advice
and help along the way and make friends.
Explain to folks that as far as your
bait is out, if you raise your rod
up high you can ease right on
by them.
sometimes a family of 5 makes a dam good
chumilne and who knows whats lying
in wait just beyond their reach casting
weighted/baited lines.
Freelining at the piers catches more than
just Grouper.'
Ive caught Cobia, Kingfish, Giant Mackeral,
Snook, Tarpon, Sharks, Big ole Flounder,
and Gator Trout. Usually all on the move
walking baits back and forth. Up and down.
In and out. Also the biggest Mangos
youve ever seen!
f i s h o n !
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Post by tears143 on Oct 18, 2019 16:56:20 GMT -5
Now you have done it skyJay spilled all the secret! :-p
Sometime it isn't about the secret but the experiences with the secret.
If you are sitting home all day long reading about it, you won't learn it. Got to go out there and try it!
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Post by SkyJay on Oct 18, 2019 17:15:17 GMT -5
you sure cant win it if you aint in it!
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Post by saltybass on Oct 19, 2019 15:09:00 GMT -5
No reason to add weight if it's a pinfish hooked by the bottom of the tail. It will actually make it worse.
Maybe try pegging a 1/8 or 1/4 oz egg at the hook if you're using a nose hooked greenie that doesn't want to swim down.
Flouro also helps to get a bait down better than mono.
Make sure you have a fresh lively bait that can pull around all that line too.
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