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Post by KingSalmon on Sept 15, 2017 20:10:39 GMT -5
I have cerebral atrophy which has affected my balance. So moving fast is impossible without falling into something. I cannot do the skyway shuffle which I understand is to keep you moving back so you can avoid the fish going into the rocks. Is there any other a guy like me can use other than sticking to bottom fishing? I was a lot more balanced and mobile before, and use to most fish out of a boat.
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Post by havetofish on Sept 16, 2017 11:40:36 GMT -5
I have cerebral atrophy which has affected my balance. So moving fast is impossible without falling into something. I cannot do the skyway shuffle which I understand is to keep you moving back so you can avoid the fish going into the rocks. Is there any other a guy like me can use other than sticking to bottom fishing? I was a lot more balanced and mobile before, and use to most fish out of a boat. You don't have to back up like that, if you have a fast enough retrieve (Ft/per crank) reel, no drag and a longer and stiff rod. I never did the Skyway Shuffle. Presuming you holding your rod and ready to react.
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Post by KingSalmon on Sept 16, 2017 15:37:09 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. What retrieval rate for a reel do you consider to be "fast" enough? Thanks.
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Post by havetofish on Sept 16, 2017 16:40:58 GMT -5
Well, its really the gear ratio. Most decent reels spec's will give you the gear ratio. The amount of line and size of spool also affect the retrieve rate. I have big Shimano Thunnus 16000f's spinners that I think are like 5:1 ratio and a Daiwa Saltis5 50H which is higher. They both retrieve more than 36" per crank, I think without looking them up. But, now they make reels up to 7:1 ratio's that will retrieve like 50" per crank. You don't have to go overboard with this stuff and high speed retrieval reels but I see some small reels used on the piers and it does make a difference for grouper, which I believe is what your talking about. This can get technical so LMGTFYAlso, let try and explain it this way. I have not done the actual measurements but I use an 8 ft semi stiff rod. From the pole parallel to the water raising it straight up can gain you about 8-10 Ft, add 2 cranks to that and you get about 16 ft of retrieval if you can turn the fish to start with. Can't let him take any drag. This is why you will see many of us on here say to always hold your rod and lock down the drag when grouper fishing. Backing up just puts as much pressure as possible on the fish to turn him before he dives for his hole. I have tripped a few times on the curb backing up so I don't.
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Post by KingSalmon on Sept 16, 2017 23:51:29 GMT -5
Shimano Tourium 30 the older silver colored ones 42 inches of line per crank high speed winch. That's a bait casting real right? Any spinning real suggestion? I get too many birdnests with bait casting....
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Post by havetofish on Sept 17, 2017 1:06:33 GMT -5
Shimano Tourium 30 the older silver colored ones 42 inches of line per crank high speed winch. That's a bait casting real right? Any spinning real suggestion? I get too many birdnests with bait casting.... Thats a tough one...depends on your budget and possible other uses, such as baitrunner feature etc.. An example in mid price would be the Penn Spinfisher Series. You got to do some homework.
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Post by blacktip on Sept 17, 2017 1:32:58 GMT -5
Just a heads up. If you preform the shuffle, watch out for the a-holes that wont slow down or stop.
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Post by georgekingfish on Sept 17, 2017 8:12:08 GMT -5
I think we're putting the cart before the horse here.
Just get out there and fish. You gotta hook up to even make that spot decision to shuffle or reel like mad.
Sometimes the buddy method may work. You hook up, try to turn him, hand off to your buddy and let him do the Skyway shuffle..... GK
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Post by KingSalmon on Sept 17, 2017 13:56:08 GMT -5
Great idea! Now I just need to find a fishing buddy.
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Post by georgekingfish on Sept 17, 2017 14:21:18 GMT -5
Great idea! Now I just need to find a fishing buddy. I mean, we used to run a charter for people with mobility issues. Depending on ability, we'd either hook up and hand off to the clients or vice versa. Those more limited than us can be accommodated if we just think outside the box. As for the Skyway shuffle, IF you ever see me out there on a weekend, these feet aren't dancing around them weekends drivers! GK
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Post by KingSalmon on Sept 17, 2017 17:44:50 GMT -5
I went on a charter once in MD for crabs. He ran three 3200ft trotlines. Problem for me is you had to climb a ladder to get in He didn't have one pf those removable stern doors like some charter boats have.
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