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Post by lutzfuji on Apr 19, 2011 21:43:14 GMT -5
Went out to fish the tide change around 1 pm to around 6 pm. Nice current not too fast easy to float out pins. Didn't see much bait but there were plenty real deep under the pier. Caught my first grouper on a pin on a 3 oz weight with some leader. But was only like 10 inches long so back in it went .Mack bite was slow when I fished. I have a question for some of you guys. I was tossing out my gotcha lures saw a few macks chasing but no bites, are you guys tying the gotcha right to your main line? Or are you running a few feet of leader to a swivel. And also I'm getting of tying knots while changing lures , thinking about switching to a snap swivel and just hooking them on that way. Any suggestions?
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Post by juck on Apr 20, 2011 1:30:48 GMT -5
I use 30lb braid and 24-inch (ish) 30lb fluo leader with no swivel,, ,,,, but I still have days where they chase but won't bite. I
can't prove it but I swear that wire leaders scare Spanish Macks.
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Post by jaeforceone on Apr 20, 2011 4:41:06 GMT -5
Mack fishing is pretty standard and using a swivel is better. You can put a 2-3oz weight on the Power pro tied to a swivel and about 5-9 feet of 30lb leader with silver squid spoon. I've seen the same thing when I leave the spoon in about a foot of water off the pier. They just sat there staring at it. You have to get the right amount of action. not too slow or fast. I'd use some kind of sent gel or paste to help with the bites.
You could also use power pro to uni/uni fluro leader. THEN tie on a steel "tippet" on the leader. I'd use about 6-8 inches. Then find the smallest snap swivel you can. From there you could use bucktail jigs, gotcha plugs, and mirrodines
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Post by David from NC on Apr 20, 2011 5:50:50 GMT -5
The more clear the water, the more picky the fish regarding steel leaders, swivels, and visible lines....at least that has been my experience. I've had days when everything worked tying my line directly to a Gotcha and other days they wouldn't touch it that way. The macks like speed so Gotcha plugs should be retrieved fast and twitched some along the way. Use your reel with the highest speed retrieve. Sometimes when I'm about to bring my plug out of the water I will open the bail, drop it to the bottom, and jig it while bringing it back up a foot or two at a time.
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Post by havetofish on Apr 20, 2011 8:35:08 GMT -5
What worked for me last Friday was a #2 extra long shank hook on 3 ft of 30 lb flouro with a 1oz sinker and cut pieces of threadfin sitting on the bottom. When they are not biting try using cut bait. I've even tipped different spoons with cut greenbacks that worked, you have to work them fast.
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Post by ripnlips on Apr 20, 2011 11:22:40 GMT -5
i use 8' t 10' of #20 flurocarbon without a swivel. uni to uni knot or a slim beauty knot will let you reel the knot thru the guides. 3/0 2x long shank lazer sharp with a live greenie hooked thru the chest works fantastic. use 1 splitshot to get it to sink far enough to where the seagulls can't get it. freeline until it hits bottom or gets whacked by a hungry mack.
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Post by montylfl on Apr 21, 2011 20:20:53 GMT -5
Lutz leader material tied to the Gotcha is a good idea. Loop knot is best. You can try a snap swivel but he less tackle is best.
Now if the Macks are chasing and not hitting try this ( do laugh but it does work).
Wrap a three inch long by 1/2 inch wide strip of aluminium foil around the trailing treble hook. Wrap it tight so it does not fall off. cast it out. the etra flash from the foil entices strikes.
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Post by lutzfuji on Apr 22, 2011 0:13:40 GMT -5
Great tips guys , im gonna give all those a shot next week .
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Post by David from NC on Apr 22, 2011 5:40:08 GMT -5
The tip from havetofish is a good one. There are times the fish prefer cut bait to live.
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