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Post by sigeptrooper02 on Dec 28, 2019 17:27:45 GMT -5
Brought the yak down by Johns pass this morning, was too rough so I shore fished, no luck. By noon it calmed down enough to get out there, so off I went. Choppy at first but it calmed down nicely after awhile. Bite was ok I guess. Only brought home one large whiting and two silver trout, enough for a meal. Released two nice specs, that normally would be slot, maybe 16-17 inches. Caught two ENORMOUS sail cats, biggest I’ve ever seen, they were fun. Both hit large pinfish. Lots of hard heads, hate them! Not much else, one small sea bass and a puffer. Heading back out with Hubbard’s tomorrow, last shot at a keeper Gag.
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Post by seabird on Dec 28, 2019 17:33:53 GMT -5
Did you use shrimp for the trout and Whiting? Johns Pass is one of the better fishing spots along the beaches.
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Post by sigeptrooper02 on Dec 28, 2019 17:58:43 GMT -5
Ya, shrimp for everything but the sailcats. I was inside the bay, over by the park next to the VA, fish were on the edge of the boat channel
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Post by carlf on Dec 28, 2019 18:57:22 GMT -5
Glad someone is fishing! I drove over the skyway today and SSP was packed. Wonder if they were catching anything???
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Post by phishead on Dec 28, 2019 21:56:41 GMT -5
Glad someone is fishing! I drove over the skyway today and SSP was packed. Wonder if they were catching anything??? First day in a while with light winds, I figured it would be packed more then usual. I’m thinking about giving my last shot for keeper gag this tue am. |
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Post by phishead on Dec 28, 2019 21:57:17 GMT -5
Brought the yak down by Johns pass this morning, was too rough so I shore fished, no luck. By noon it calmed down enough to get out there, so off I went. Choppy at first but it calmed down nicely after awhile. Bite was ok I guess. Only brought home one large whiting and two silver trout, enough for a meal. Released two nice specs, that normally would be slot, maybe 16-17 inches. Caught two ENORMOUS sail cats, biggest I’ve ever seen, they were fun. Both hit large pinfish. Lots of hard heads, hate them! Not much else, one small sea bass and a puffer. Heading back out with Hubbard’s tomorrow, last shot at a keeper Gag. May the new reel bring you a keeper. |
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Post by alaskaguy on Dec 28, 2019 23:21:00 GMT -5
Brought the yak down by Johns pass this morning, was too rough so I shore fished, no luck. By noon it calmed down enough to get out there, so off I went. Choppy at first but it calmed down nicely after awhile. Bite was ok I guess. Only brought home one large whiting and two silver trout, enough for a meal. Released two nice specs, that normally would be slot, maybe 16-17 inches. Caught two ENORMOUS sail cats, biggest I’ve ever seen, they were fun. Both hit large pinfish. Lots of hard heads, hate them! Not much else, one small sea bass and a puffer. Heading back out with Hubbard’s tomorrow, last shot at a keeper Gag. If you will clean the sails you will be surprised on the taste/firmness. close to sheephead |
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Post by snapperx on Dec 29, 2019 8:14:04 GMT -5
Good report. Whatever you do don't eat catfish unless you want the sht they eat in you.
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Post by phishead on Dec 29, 2019 9:02:34 GMT -5
Here we go again.
And do you know what sailcats eat? Please describe its feeding habits. To all the people that are going to bash the sailcat please provide a link to a research paper describing stomach contents of sailcats.
My 35 years of raising millions fish tells me that catfish and most other fish eat the same junk. Generally speaking. I bet pinfish will eat worse stuff then sailcats, and do you know who eats pinfish. Groupers. Now dont tell me pelagic eat only live bait, that’s common sense. But generally speaking most reef fish will eat the same junk. That includes fish poop. Even herbivorous fish. Now if you don’t like the flavor of catfish, that’s a different thing, or cleaning its sucks., Then you have a valid point. But let’s not repeat the same old tales. And do you know what lobsters and crabs eat. Worse stuff then any catfish. But yet we choose to pay insane money for them. And how is flavor. Well it’s in the eyes of the beholder. I can go on for ever describing what most fish eat, but I think with that logic everything would be catch and release. Cause if it ain’t the rummers of chit wolfing catfish then it will be the worms or the mercury, soon something else. Hell might as well start eating meatless burgers. But hold on, veggies, organic fertilizer, and that is ...... or worse inorganics. Darn. Forgot dinoflagellate poisoning. Yup many people die. My hockey coach died eating oysters.
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Post by carlf on Dec 29, 2019 9:49:22 GMT -5
Sailcats are predators, as are most large catfish.
Even hardheads are mainly predators.
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Post by phishead on Dec 29, 2019 9:59:59 GMT -5
Sailcats are predators, as are most large catfish. Even hardheads are mainly predators. Hence they took live pins. All the sailcats I caught were on big shrimp. |
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Post by SkyJay on Dec 29, 2019 10:01:22 GMT -5
did you know the slime of a Sailcat is hallucinogen?
check it out.
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Post by phishead on Dec 29, 2019 10:18:31 GMT -5
did you know the slime of a Sailcat is hallucinogen? check it out. Thanks skyjay. Next time I’m out on my yak I may end up water dancing amongst the mangroves with manatees. |
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Post by phishead on Dec 29, 2019 10:21:46 GMT -5
So here are some real facts. Sailcats diet. 50% crabs 20% shrimp 20% squid 10% fish  |
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Post by phishead on Dec 29, 2019 10:27:18 GMT -5
If you care to add all the data, it’s 100%.
Don’t see the “chit” on that list.
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Post by fishinfrank on Dec 29, 2019 14:06:11 GMT -5
People always give me crap for keeping cats. I eat em, the kids love em and even prefer them over other fish. If more people keep them the less of a nusence they'll be.
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Post by carlf on Dec 29, 2019 14:19:05 GMT -5
Worst part about sailcats is all the slime & pulling the skin off, otherwise, great fighting and great eating fish.
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Post by alaskaguy on Dec 29, 2019 14:21:34 GMT -5
Good report. Whatever you do don't eat catfish unless you want the sht they eat in you. Really, |
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Post by parkpass on Dec 29, 2019 14:32:32 GMT -5
Hail to the mighty catfish, but keep it quiet, if FWC finds out you guys are eating them they will slap a size limit and a closed season on them like everything else out there
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Post by SkyJay on Dec 29, 2019 15:57:14 GMT -5
Worst part about sailcats is all the slime & pulling the skin off, otherwise, great fighting and great eating fish. we used to blow em off with a pressure cleaner, go through all at once and clip the side fins off with some cutters so they'd lay flat and then filet the hell out of em. then just cut the meat off the skin like a regular fish. worked pretty good. helluva lot easier for sure |
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Post by SkyJay on Dec 29, 2019 15:59:45 GMT -5
did a lions club fish fry once with nothing
but alafia sailcats.
folks loved em
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Post by saltybass on Dec 29, 2019 17:27:01 GMT -5
Worst part about sailcats is all the slime & pulling the skin off, otherwise, great fighting and great eating fish. we used to blow em off with a pressure cleaner, go through all at once and clip the side fins off with some cutters so they'd lay flat and then filet the hell out of em. the just cut the meat off the shin like a regular fish. worked pretty good. helluva lot easier for sure Not sure why people insist on skinning catfish. Just cut the meat off the body and remove the skin like any other fish. I like leaving the fins to have something to hold onto. |
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Post by phishead on Dec 29, 2019 18:09:13 GMT -5
Worst part about sailcats is all the slime & pulling the skin off, otherwise, great fighting and great eating fish. Maybe we should smoke the slime. |
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Post by SkyJay on Dec 29, 2019 19:46:58 GMT -5
true story
a friend used to dry the stuff ,
scrape it up and sell it to the college
students i shat you not lol
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Post by sigeptrooper02 on Dec 29, 2019 20:05:44 GMT -5
did you know the slime of a Sailcat is hallucinogen? check it out. Guess I should have licked them before I let them go!  |
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Post by Flatsrunner on Dec 29, 2019 20:17:03 GMT -5
you can put them in a bucket with ice and water and at the end of your fishing trip the slime is gone,had many people tell me they are quite good,havnt tried one yet tho..
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Post by SkyJay on Dec 29, 2019 22:35:33 GMT -5
🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂🤣🤣😂😂
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Post by flbandit on Dec 30, 2019 18:08:01 GMT -5
I kept and cook a few back in the day, but I didn't like the taste. A big one is fun to catch though.
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Post by Flatsrunner on Dec 30, 2019 18:38:24 GMT -5
dont want them slimmy critters near me or the kayak,caugth a few on the last trip out,the kayak looked a ghostbuster's prop (slime everywhere) ") to each their own..
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Post by phishead on Dec 30, 2019 20:47:38 GMT -5
All valid points. But that whole thing with catfish eating chit is just getting old and annoying. Believe me. Just about every reef fish eats poop.
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