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Post by SkyJay on May 17, 2009 14:16:35 GMT -5
Thoughts - Advice - Concerns, And Questions Concerning The Effects Of The Tides At The Skyway Piers (Especially Since The East Side Closure)
I'll start...
Incoming, Or Outgoing?
Full Moon Or Half Moon?
2 Tide Day Or 4?
Is a particular Tide favorable to a particular Species?
All opinions/feedback/questions are welcomed, and apreciated by all.
(Some of you lurkers need to get busy, and start posting goshdarnit.) ;D
Let's hear yer views folks.
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truckyfd
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Post by truckyfd on May 17, 2009 14:23:20 GMT -5
need moving water for all spieces!
problem is,
tooo fast no fish
too slow no fish
you need to look at the rize or fall of a given tide cycle!
ie, outgoing 1.4 to .50 over 6 hours, smokin tide, !
fish won't fight the current to eat, and ya can't keep a bait in the strike zone!
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Post by SkyJay on May 17, 2009 14:26:19 GMT -5
We Have A Winner!
Good Answer Trucky!
Anybody else wanna add to that infinite wisdom?
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Post by havetofish on May 17, 2009 14:27:13 GMT -5
4 tide day, 2 days or after full moon, outgoing tide for me and the gags
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Post by SkyJay on May 17, 2009 15:10:25 GMT -5
I'll add to Trucky's comment on current too fast, which illustrates the importance of fishing around structure... Would you rather stand In a 30mph wind, or duck behind a convenient wall or tree, to make yourself more comfortable? Think fellers ... Think.
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Post by Look'n4Tuna on May 17, 2009 15:26:17 GMT -5
I haven't fished the Skyway as much as quite a few of you, but I'm all for "whenever you can fish" Outgoing tides are obviously better for freelining and ballooning. Incoming a little better for keeping bait under the pier for snapper. But ME personally I've found that I go out in the evening/night when I'm looking for shark. But I LOVE going out in the morning, getting there before sunrise. It's cooler and the I'm just waiting for the fish to get out of bed and come out for breakfast!! I'm by no means a seasoned Skyway pier rat, but I'll take any chance I can to slide down there and try my luck!!
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Post by SkyJay on May 17, 2009 16:13:17 GMT -5
You are SO right Tuna, myself included, especially as of late. It's amazing how folks can take something so precious/important for granted, till one day they wake up and it's no longer viable. Myself, I used to go when I wanted. Now I go when I can. So... In the interest of keeping the thread alive, and educating everybody... Tide phase, current speed, and duration are the key to a successful trip. Lets open the discussion to whereas we all come away with a BETTER understanding of the crucial aspects concerning the Tides effects, so "When we're there when we can get there" We can all have a better chance at maximizing the potential for the limited time we have to fish. Whatddya think fellers?
Let's hear from ya. Your thoughts, questions, feedback, etc.
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Post by inshorebasher on May 17, 2009 17:28:52 GMT -5
tide plays a very important part of any fishing expedition! espically around structure like the skyway. in slack tides you will get late feeders or "lost" fish seperated from their school that might eat. but i've noticed beginning of incoming and about 15-20 minutes after peak, and outgoing is good but if its ripping; its difficult to catch fish but they are hungry and waiting to ambush behind rocks, and "eddie's".
imagine that hormel commercial when that guy says: "lunch starts now!" and everyone is going crazy. so its a given time and day when fish do the same thing and just go on a feeding freenzy.
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jab
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Post by jab on May 17, 2009 19:38:25 GMT -5
i like it about an hour before incoming tide.
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Post by goindeep on May 17, 2009 19:52:31 GMT -5
Cool chart link Jay. Next time just put {url} in front of the web address, then {/url} after it, only replace the { and } with [ and ] and we'll be able to click it. Anyway, I think the best answer to the question is the most obvious - "Whenever you can get there" cuz one day we might not be able to. However, knowing and understanding the conditions beforehand can increase your chances of catching fish. Myself, since Ive been fishing at the SSP, have always preferred the outgoing tide, but lately Ive been liking the incoming, too. Seems like more species make their rounds at and around the pier when the water is coming in from the gulf. Quite the co-winkey-dink eh? Pretty much any tide that changes by at least a foot over a 4 or more hour period are what I like to fish. Seems like I catch more fish on those types of tides (weather and moon phases also play a big factor and sometimes render those tides useless). And while I dont plan my fishing exclusively around the tides, I DO try to make it out sometimes when the conditions seem most favorable. Heck, who doesnt like better odds?? Great topic.
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Post by SkyJay on May 18, 2009 8:05:42 GMT -5
Thanx John... And dam I never realized until you pointed it out, that there was THAT big of a difference between the charts?? I mean WTF? Anyways, I thought the Graphics were neat, and make it easier to distinguish strength of current in knots, and duration of tide. It also gives you PEAK flow, so you can determine the best times to fish. (around the change) For me I like an hour or so before and after the slack, on a 4 tide day, incoming OR outgoing.
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ripnlips
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Post by ripnlips on May 18, 2009 18:55:21 GMT -5
here's my opinion on it. i fish whenever i can get out. if the tides look good or not, good weather or bad, week day or weekend, day time or night. fish when i can and where ever i can. opportunity is the word. i have seen a pattern that seems to work better than just a simple tide chart. here is a typical chart with tides and moon phases. seems we have better luck when the moon visibility is closer to 0% or 100% (circled in red). when the percentage is near 50%, we seem to not have very good luck. either way we still give it a shot wether it will be good or not. the good lord only gives us one shot on this planet we call earth so i try to make the most of it, and i suggest you do the same.
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Post by havetofish on May 18, 2009 19:18:22 GMT -5
Hey Rip, I like that tide chart. What site is it from? Got a link?
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Post by SkyJay on May 18, 2009 19:26:43 GMT -5
here's my opinion on it. i fish whenever i can get out. if the tides look good or not, good weather or bad, week day or weekend, day time or night. fish when i can and where ever i can. opportunity is the word. i have seen a pattern that seems to work better than just a simple tide chart. here is a typical chart with tides and moon phases. seems we have better luck when the moon visibility is closer to 0% or 100% (circled in red). when the percentage is near 50%, we seem to not have very good luck. either way we still give it a shot wether it will be good or not. the good lord only gives us one shot on this planet we call earth so i try to make the most of it, and i suggest you do the same.
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ripnlips
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Post by ripnlips on May 18, 2009 20:06:25 GMT -5
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Post by jmfishin on May 18, 2009 20:53:20 GMT -5
i try very hard not to fish at dead low tide. i never catch squat,its also tough when you get stuck in muck for an hour! i would much rather fish around the high tides.
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